Allaben Primitive Campsites
only a handful of spots but very nice
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
Dispersed camping around Windham, New York includes several primitive sites in the Catskill Mountains and surrounding state forests. Echo Lake provides hike-in tent camping with established sites circling the water and one lean-to. Other options include Burnt Rossman State Forest, Betty Brook Camp, Duck Pond Campsite, and Allaben Primitive Campsites. These areas generally allow camping at no cost, with fire rings at many locations. Most sites permit pets and allow campfires, though regulations vary by location.
Access to many of these sites requires navigation on unpaved roads that can become challenging after rain or in winter conditions. Duck Pond Campsite is reached via dirt roads that may require careful driving in smaller vehicles. One reviewer noted, "The road in on old cemetery rd was pretty rough," while another mentioned "intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads." Most areas have no amenities such as toilets, drinking water, or trash service. Betty Brook Camp is an exception, offering drinking water and picnic tables according to the available data. Pack-in, pack-out principles apply at all locations.
The natural setting provides the primary appeal of these dispersed sites. Echo Lake offers a picturesque mountain lake environment where "the lake is surrounded by hills" and camping options include both lakeside spots and elevated positions with "a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze." Burnt Rossman State Forest provides winter camping opportunities in a peaceful environment. Betty Brook Camp features streamside camping where "sometimes you never see anyone." Many sites remain relatively unknown and uncrowded, though Echo Lake can "get a little crowded later in the day" according to one camper. Wildlife viewing opportunities exist throughout the region, with most sites situated in forested settings away from developed areas.
"beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine."
"Nice spot right off the main road and close to town. Small pond-don’t think there are any fish. Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle. Trails to the fishing access across the road."
"Lean-to is just off the Mink Hollow trail near the Devil's Path there is an outhouse near lean-to. A reliable piped spring is a quarter mile away."
"There are tent sites around the whole lake with fire pits and 1 lean-to site at the end of the trail when you first arrive at the lake. The sites are relatively flat and well shaded with trees. "
"Lake is surrounded by hills and there is a small lean two with a few campfire spots."
"Lean-to is right on the overlook trail so a lot of hikers passing by."
"Was a great location for winter camping. Site easily accessible from road. Beautiful, peaceful, great time!"
"Entrance is soft"
"After driving unpaved dirt road for a while, we arrived a surprisingly well maintained beautiful campsites. The pond is small so the mosquitos were not too bad."
"Intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads"
"I live near this campground. I'm about a mile away and I pass it every day. It is rather remote, but it is right along West kill road."
"Remote. Sometimes you never see anyone. Sometimes you see some people. You camp on the stream. There is a couple of spots"
"Great camping spots about 1.5 mile hike in from Denning Trailhead. A lot of spots right by the river. Great spot to camp and then wake up to hike to tabletop/ peekamoose mountain."
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
Lock 15 is big area with varied places to park. There is a port a potty and potable water and All free. Shaded areas and picnic tables. It is located on the Mohawk River. It is a busy train location across the river. A boat did not enter the lock during our visit but it is an active lock on the Erie Canal. There is ample parking for a dozen or more campervans. It’s only 25 miles from Copperstown, NY. Felt very safe here.
Arrived at night on a weekday to find two other vehicles parked in the lot, srilll was able to find a fire ring with a level area relatively easy. Very quiet, just the sounds of owls hooting at night. Very nice mixed forest, seems managed well. It is somewhat buggy. But doesn’t seem to be overly infested with ticks at least.
Between Sage's Ravine and Jug End Road there are five backcountry campsites on the Appalachian Trail. Sage's Ravine Laurel Ridge Race Brook Falls (with a shelter) The Hemlocks (with a shelter) Glen Brook (with a shelter) After descending Mt. Everett, you descend to Guilder Pond State Park. It is a day use park with trash cans and in season it also has a porta potty and a few picnic tables. No camping besides those already mentioned, which are all A.T. campsites. Jug End Road allows overnight parking (often used by folks hiking the A.T.) but I wouldn't classify that as dispersed camping unless you just need a place to pull over and sleep for a night. Each site mentioned, with the exception of Race Brook, is no more than .2 off the A.T.
Great spot, great location. FYI to anyone who comes in the winter, it's not plowed, so you may need to adjust your plans accordingly.
Lean-to is just off the Mink Hollow trail near the Devil's Path there is an outhouse near lean-to. A reliable piped spring is a quarter mile away.
Lean-to is right on the overlook trail so a lot of hikers passing by.
This was a quiet overnight stay, just as the other reviewers say, a gravel parking lot that is easy to find a level spot in. This is on the river with a nice view. Lots of trains rolling through across the river but the noise wasn't an issue for me. There was a police officer that drove through the lot and drove around my campervan and continued on his way so I know that it is okay to overnight there.
Cool spot next to a pond. There are a few others that aren’t next to a pond, and therefore not as cool… but still pretty cool bc it’s free and you can walk up a little to a pond.
Dispersed camping options near Windham, New York provide access to remote forest settings in the western Catskill Mountains. Most areas are situated between 1,500-3,000 feet elevation with terrain characterized by deciduous forests, mountain streams, and occasional small ponds. Winter temperatures often drop below freezing from November through March, while summer daytime temperatures typically range from 65-80°F with cooler evenings, especially at higher elevations.
Hiking to mountain views: From Denning Trailhead Peekamoose Primitive Camping, campers can access challenging day hikes. "Great spot to camp and then wake up to hike to tabletop/peekamoose mountain. Near the top of tabletop there is also a lean-to for camping," notes Ali B.
Fishing in local waters: At Fort Plain Lock 15, visitors can fish directly from their campsite. The site is "situated right on the Mohawk River. It's a great spot for wildlife viewing and fishing (with a valid license)," according to Mona M.
Wildlife observation: The quiet forest settings support diverse wildlife watching opportunities. Look for white-tailed deer, wild turkeys, and various songbirds. At Duck Pond Campsite, the small pond creates habitat for amphibians and attracts birds, making it ideal for morning wildlife viewing. One camper noted, "The pond is small so the mosquitos were not too bad."
Waterside camping: Allaben Primitive Campsites offers streamside camping with basic amenities. "Nice spot right off the main road and close to town. Small pond... Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle. Trails to the fishing access across the road," reports Breanne H.
Remote locations: Betty Brook Camp provides a truly remote experience as described by Robert B.: "Remote. Sometimes you never see anyone. Sometimes you see some people. You camp on the stream."
Elevated camping spots: Dispersed sites at higher elevations offer temperature relief during summer. The terrain often provides natural platforms for tents with superior drainage during rainfall. At Echo Lake, campers can find spots "on the hill with a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze," according to James A.
Road conditions: Many dispersed sites require navigating unmaintained roads. At Duck Pond Campsite, Yae U. advises: "After driving unpaved dirt road for a while, we arrived at surprisingly well maintained beautiful campsites... Just be careful driving in the sometimes rough conditions."
Cell service limitations: Most areas have spotty or nonexistent coverage. The L. notes the challenges: "Intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads."
Limited facilities: Most sites lack basic amenities. At Betty Brook Camp, however, Peter notes: "It is rather remote, but it is right along West kill road. There's a stream alongside it, a fire pit, and a town about 8 mi away. It's a small town, with just a gas station store."
Seasonal considerations: While summer offers the most comfortable conditions, winter camping is possible at some locations. Felix R. found Burnt Rossman State Forest suitable for cold-weather camping: "Was a great location for winter camping. Site easily accessible from road."
Site selection priority: Choose locations with established fire rings and flat tent areas. Burnt Rossman State Forest offers family-friendly options as The L. describes: "This spot is right off the road. Nice and quiet. There is enough room for 2 to 3 campers."
Noise considerations: Some sites have ambient noise that may affect light sleepers. At Fort Plain Lock 15, The L. warns: "It offers sounds of the highway and freight trains going by, my wife and I love it. If you need quiet, keep on moving."
Water access planning: Most sites require bringing all drinking water. Note that Betty Brook Camp is an exception with drinking water available on site. For washing, streams provide water that should be treated before use.
Timing for site selection: Popular areas fill quickly during summer weekends. Kate from Echo Lake advises: "It does get a little crowded later in the day so you may have to share space with others and it can be a little noisy at night."
Size restrictions: Most dispersed camping areas near Windham accommodate small trailers or vans only. At Betty Brook Camp, Peter cautions: "I would not recommend this for large trailers. The site is fairly small."
Parking considerations: At some sites, separate parking may be required during wet conditions. The L. notes at Burnt Rossman State Forest: "Parking across the street if it's wet. Entrance is soft."
Level spots: Finding level parking for vehicles can be challenging. At Fort Plain Lock 15 on Empire Trail, The L. describes the reality: "Simply it's a parking lot with a view. The parking area is right on the water."
Services proximity: Most rustic camping near Windham lacks nearby services. When staying at more remote locations, stock provisions beforehand as the nearest supplies might be 8+ miles away at small general stores with limited selection and higher prices.
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