Allaben Primitive Campsites
only a handful of spots but very nice
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
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The Catskill Mountain region surrounding West Shokan, New York features predominantly primitive and dispersed camping options across state forests and public lands. Dispersed campsites near West Shokan range from waterfront spots at Echo Lake, which offers tent sites around a scenic mountain lake with fire pits and a lean-to, to inland options like Denning Trailhead, which provides access to riverside primitive camping about 1.5 miles from the parking area. Allaben Primitive Campsites and Duck Pond Campsite represent more accessible options with small clearings for tents and basic fire rings. Most sites in this region maintain a rustic character with minimal amenities, catering primarily to tent campers seeking natural settings rather than developed facilities.
Road conditions vary significantly throughout the area, with many campgrounds requiring travel on unpaved forest roads with potholes and rough terrain. As one camper noted about Duck Pond Campsite, "The road in was pretty rough, so we decided to go out the other way, which was way worse." High-clearance vehicles are recommended for accessing many sites, particularly after rain. Cell service remains intermittent or nonexistent at most locations. Permits may be required for camping on New York State land, with regulations varying by county. Campers should contact the appropriate ranger's office before arrival to confirm current requirements and conditions.
Waterfront locations consistently receive the highest ratings from visitors, though they come with specific challenges. Echo Lake campers report that sites "can get swampy near the edge of the lake," recommending bug spray during warmer months. Many primitive sites feature established fire rings and flat tent pads but lack amenities like picnic tables, potable water, or toilets. Winter camping opportunities exist at several locations, with one visitor noting Burnt Rossman State Forest's Westkill Camp as "a great location for winter camping." Privacy varies by location and season, with some campers reporting complete solitude while others mention sharing space during peak periods. Leave No Trace principles are emphasized throughout the region's camping areas.
"beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine."
"Nice spot right off the main road and close to town. Small pond-don’t think there are any fish. Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle. Trails to the fishing access across the road."
"Great camping spots about 1.5 mile hike in from Denning Trailhead. A lot of spots right by the river. Great spot to camp and then wake up to hike to tabletop/ peekamoose mountain."
"There are tent sites around the whole lake with fire pits and 1 lean-to site at the end of the trail when you first arrive at the lake. The sites are relatively flat and well shaded with trees. "
"Lake is surrounded by hills and there is a small lean two with a few campfire spots."
"Lean-to is just off the Mink Hollow trail near the Devil's Path there is an outhouse near lean-to. A reliable piped spring is a quarter mile away."
"Lean-to is right on the overlook trail so a lot of hikers passing by."
"If you like dispersed camping, like me- this place is good. There are absolutely no amenities whatsoever & barely even a signal here, but it’s quiet & off the beaten path."
"99% off people don't even know this area exists. If you want a quiet piece of beautiful forest to truly rough it and go camping for a few days, then this is what you have been looking for."
"This spot is easy to find and access, and had decent ATT service. There's only a few spots, and the road is narrow with not much turnaround room, I wouldn't recommend for trailers or RVs."
"Was a great location for winter camping. Site easily accessible from road. Beautiful, peaceful, great time!"
"Entrance is soft"
"After driving unpaved dirt road for a while, we arrived a surprisingly well maintained beautiful campsites. The pond is small so the mosquitos were not too bad."
"Intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads"
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
Arrived at night on a weekday to find two other vehicles parked in the lot, srilll was able to find a fire ring with a level area relatively easy. Very quiet, just the sounds of owls hooting at night. Very nice mixed forest, seems managed well. It is somewhat buggy. But doesn’t seem to be overly infested with ticks at least.
Between Sage's Ravine and Jug End Road there are five backcountry campsites on the Appalachian Trail. Sage's Ravine Laurel Ridge Race Brook Falls (with a shelter) The Hemlocks (with a shelter) Glen Brook (with a shelter) After descending Mt. Everett, you descend to Guilder Pond State Park. It is a day use park with trash cans and in season it also has a porta potty and a few picnic tables. No camping besides those already mentioned, which are all A.T. campsites. Jug End Road allows overnight parking (often used by folks hiking the A.T.) but I wouldn't classify that as dispersed camping unless you just need a place to pull over and sleep for a night. Each site mentioned, with the exception of Race Brook, is no more than .2 off the A.T.
Lean-to is just off the Mink Hollow trail near the Devil's Path there is an outhouse near lean-to. A reliable piped spring is a quarter mile away.
Lean-to is right on the overlook trail so a lot of hikers passing by.
Cool spot next to a pond. There are a few others that aren’t next to a pond, and therefore not as cool… but still pretty cool bc it’s free and you can walk up a little to a pond.
There was a bunch of signs that said no parking so we parked at the entrance to the trailhead. The area itself is beautiful but I believe it is more for tent camping versus cars, overlanding vehicles and RVs.
This spot is easy to find and access, and had decent ATT service. There's only a few spots, and the road is narrow with not much turnaround room, I wouldn't recommend for trailers or RVs.
Lake is surrounded by hills and there is a small lean two with a few campfire spots. Other campsites are scattered and require navigating through small overgrown trails (wear pants) We camped on the hill with a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze.
Dispersed camping near West Shokan, New York offers remote wilderness experiences within the Catskill Forest Preserve, where elevations range from 1,200 to over 3,500 feet. The region lies within a temperate deciduous forest zone that receives approximately 50 inches of annual precipitation. Access to many sites requires navigating unmaintained forest roads that deteriorate significantly during spring thaw periods from March to May.
Streamside hiking: At Denning Trailhead Peekamoose Primitive Camping, campers can access multiple stream-adjacent spots after a 1.5-mile hike from the parking area. "Great camping spots about 1.5 mile hike in from Denning Trailhead. A lot of spots right by the river. Great spot to camp and then wake up to hike to tabletop/peekamoose mountain," notes camper Ali B.
Forest exploration: The 900+ acres at Taconic Hereford Multiple Use Park offer extensive trail systems for day hiking while maintaining proximity to services. "Less than 10 min drive from town, but hiking in and finding a suitable place to make camp has the feeling of the wild, with the safety of having full cell service. There is plenty of trails to explore and wildlife to enjoy," reports Doc B.
Winter adventures: Several camping areas remain accessible during colder months when crowds thin significantly. The Catskills receive an average of 50-75 inches of snowfall annually, creating opportunities for cold-weather camping from December through March. Winter visitors should prepare for overnight temperatures that frequently drop below 20°F.
Lake access: Campers at Echo Lake appreciate the waterfront tent sites that surround the mountain lake. "Lake is surrounded by hills and there is a small lean to with a few campfire spots. Other campsites are scattered and require navigating through small overgrown trails (wear pants). We camped on the hill with a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze," shares James A.
Site privacy: At Hemlock Ridge MUA Dispersed, campers value the solitude despite limited parking. "The parking lot only holds about 4-5 cars, 6 if you park real tight. There's no spectacular mountain views from above, but rather a quiet peaceful wooded area & although I only seen/stayed at one camping spot which is literally at about the required 150ft from the road, you can set up your own camp anywhere," explains Dawn M.
Stream proximity: Betty Brook Camp offers direct access to flowing water adjacent to campsites. "Love to camp here all year long have been coming to the area for a couple of decades now. Remote. Sometimes you never see anyone. Sometimes you see some people. You camp on the stream. There is a couple of spots," reports Robert B.
Road conditions: Multiple campgrounds require traveling rough unpaved roads with limited turnaround space. "The road in on old cemetery rd was pretty rough, so we decided to go out the other way, which was way worse," warns a camper at Duck Pond Campsite. Another visitor adds, "Just be careful driving in the sometimes rough conditions."
Amenities: Most primitive sites lack facilities but occasionally include basic features. At Allaben Primitive Campsites, you'll find "Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle. Trails to the fishing access across the road," according to Breanne H.
Season considerations: Spring camping (April-May) often means dealing with mud and seasonal road closures as snow melts. Summer temperatures average 70-80°F during day and 50-60°F at night, while fall brings colorful foliage from late September through mid-October.
Access planning: When camping with children, consider the hiking distance to sites. Echo Lake offers various options, as one camper explains: "There are tent sites around the whole lake with fire pits and 1 lean-to site at the end of the trail when you first arrive at the lake."
Preparation for basics: Pack all essentials as most sites have no facilities. Hemlock Ridge MUA "isn't a fancy campsite and has no amenities... Normal LNT rules apply. Bugs are relentless," notes Cory D.
Cell service awareness: Connectivity varies dramatically between sites, which affects emergency communications. At Burnt Rossman State Forest - Westkill Camp, the site is "easily accessible from road" according to Felix R., but at Duck Pond Campsite, campers report "Intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads."
Size limitations: Most dispersed camping areas near West Shokan cannot accommodate larger recreational vehicles. At Taconic Hereford Multiple Use Park, "the road is narrow with not much turnaround room, I wouldn't recommend for trailers or RVs," advises Tim M.
Seasonal accessibility: For RV and trailer access, Betty Brook Camp offers limited space but potential year-round accessibility. Peter notes, "I would not recommend this for large trailers. The site is fairly small, but it's in state park, and there's tons of walking that can be done."
Entry points: When accessing sites with vehicles, check recent conditions with rangers or previous visitors. At Burnt Rossman State Forest, one camper notes, "Parking across the street if it's wet. Entrance is soft."
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