Allaben Primitive Campsites
only a handful of spots but very nice
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
Dispersed camping near Howes Cave, New York includes several free primitive campsites located in state forests and along waterways within driving distance of the area. Betty Brook Camp, Duck Pond Campsite, and Burnt Rossman State Forest offer free camping with minimal amenities, covering options from streamside sites to open forest clearings. Most sites are situated on state forest land, with camping permitted at designated areas that typically include basic fire rings. Fort Plain Lock 15 on the Empire Trail provides riverside camping with slightly more amenities than other dispersed sites in the region.
Road conditions vary significantly across these primitive camping areas. Duck Pond Campsite requires careful navigation on rough, unpaved roads that may not be suitable for larger vehicles or trailers. As one camper noted, "The road in on old cemetery rd was pretty rough... the years taken off the life of my truck was not worth it." Most sites require visitors to bring their own drinking water and pack out all trash. Cell service is intermittent or non-existent in many locations, particularly at Duck Pond Campsite and throughout the Ferris Wild Forest area. Visitors should prepare for self-sufficient camping with no facilities.
The dispersed campsites in this region provide varying experiences based on location and proximity to water features. Betty Brook Camp sits alongside a stream and remains relatively quiet year-round. "Love to camp here all year long," one visitor remarked, "Remote. Sometimes you never see anyone. Sometimes you see some people. You camp on the stream." Fort Plain Lock 15 offers a unique experience with its riverside location but comes with environmental factors to consider. As described in a review, "It offers sounds of the highway and freight trains going by." Echo Lake, though farther from Howes Cave, provides a more secluded backcountry experience with lakeside camping and a lean-to. Most dispersed sites in the area feature fire pits, but visitors should check current fire regulations before planning trips.
"I live near this campground. I'm about a mile away and I pass it every day. It is rather remote, but it is right along West kill road."
"Remote. Sometimes you never see anyone. Sometimes you see some people. You camp on the stream. There is a couple of spots"
"After driving unpaved dirt road for a while, we arrived a surprisingly well maintained beautiful campsites. The pond is small so the mosquitos were not too bad."
"Intermittent cell service which was frightening while driving on these rough roads"
"Was a great location for winter camping. Site easily accessible from road. Beautiful, peaceful, great time!"
"Entrance is soft"
"Continue driving past the original coordinates until you reach the dirt parking lot on the right. You’ll see signs that say “No Vehicles Past This Point” — those apply only to the grassy picnic area."
"Shaded areas and picnic tables. It is located on the Mohawk River. It is a busy train location across the river."
"Only con which wasn’t that big of an issue was that you are close to the road, so any vehicles going by which wasn’t many you would hear. Besides that you are in dark and quiet state forest."
"This trailhead provides access to bicycle-friendly nature trails. I explored both directions on my bike, riding approximately half a mile down each side."
"beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine."
"Nice spot right off the main road and close to town. Small pond-don’t think there are any fish. Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle. Trails to the fishing access across the road."
beautiful quiet space, great home base for the Catskills and small towns around here. note there's only a few spots. road conditions were fine.
Lock 15 is big area with varied places to park. There is a port a potty and potable water and All free. Shaded areas and picnic tables. It is located on the Mohawk River. It is a busy train location across the river. A boat did not enter the lock during our visit but it is an active lock on the Erie Canal. There is ample parking for a dozen or more campervans. It’s only 25 miles from Copperstown, NY. Felt very safe here.
Great spot, great location. FYI to anyone who comes in the winter, it's not plowed, so you may need to adjust your plans accordingly.
Lean-to is just off the Mink Hollow trail near the Devil's Path there is an outhouse near lean-to. A reliable piped spring is a quarter mile away.
Lean-to is right on the overlook trail so a lot of hikers passing by.
This was a quiet overnight stay, just as the other reviewers say, a gravel parking lot that is easy to find a level spot in. This is on the river with a nice view. Lots of trains rolling through across the river but the noise wasn't an issue for me. There was a police officer that drove through the lot and drove around my campervan and continued on his way so I know that it is okay to overnight there.
Cool spot next to a pond. There are a few others that aren’t next to a pond, and therefore not as cool… but still pretty cool bc it’s free and you can walk up a little to a pond.
Site 4 is magical, it is road side, but the view, and access to the river is great. There is a path right from the site. Occasionally you will get the yahoo that speeds by and makes a dust cloud but otherwise it’s great. There is zero Verizon cell service in the whole area. So plan accordingly,
Lake is surrounded by hills and there is a small lean two with a few campfire spots. Other campsites are scattered and require navigating through small overgrown trails (wear pants) We camped on the hill with a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze.
Primitive camping near Howes Cave, New York offers remote overnight options within proximity to the Schoharie Valley. Most sites are located within state forests at elevations ranging from 500 to 1,200 feet, with seasonal weather patterns requiring preparation for spring mud and winter snow. Road conditions vary considerably across these areas with some requiring high-clearance vehicles.
Fishing access points: Multiple primitive sites feature direct water access for anglers. At Allaben Primitive Campsites, visitors can utilize "trails to the fishing access across the road," while Fort Plain Lock 15 provides Mohawk River fishing opportunities where "the parking lot is large, rocky, and uneven, situated right on the Mohawk River. It's a great spot for wildlife viewing and fishing (with a valid license)."
Winter camping options: Several state forests maintain year-round access when weather permits. At Burnt Rossman State Forest - Westkill Camp, one camper noted it "was a great location for winter camping. Site easily accessible from road. Beautiful, peaceful, great time!" Winter camping requires additional preparation including appropriate cold-weather gear.
Trail exploration: The region offers various hiking and biking options. At Ushers Road State Forest, "This trailhead provides access to bicycle-friendly nature trails. I explored both directions on my bike, riding approximately half a mile down each side." Trails may become challenging during wet periods as "the terrain eventually transitions into a low-lying, swampy area, likely due to recent rainfall."
Waterside locations: Several campsites provide direct water access. Betty Brook Camp features stream access as noted by a visitor: "I live near this campground. I'm about a mile away and I pass it every day. It is rather remote, but it is right along West kill road. There's a stream alongside it, a fire pit, and a town about 8 mi away."
Wildlife viewing: Multiple sites offer wildlife observation opportunities. Fort Plain Lock 15 provides both expected and unusual wildlife encounters, with one visitor mentioning "The resident peacock has been keeping me company." The riverside location supports various bird species and aquatic wildlife.
Hillside views: Elevated camping positions provide panoramic perspectives. At Echo Lake, campers report "We camped on the hill with a beautiful view of the whole lake and breeze." These elevated positions often provide better airflow which helps reduce insect activity during summer months.
Vehicle requirements: Road conditions present significant challenges at several sites. Duck Pond Campsite requires careful vehicle selection as "After driving unpaved dirt road for a while, we arrived a surprisingly well maintained beautiful campsites... Just be careful driving in the sometimes rough conditions." Most remote sites are inaccessible to larger RVs or trailers.
Site identification: Finding designated camping areas can be challenging. At Echo Lake, "Other campsites are scattered and require navigating through small overgrown trails (wear pants)." Sites typically feature established fire rings as primary indicators of designated camping locations.
Seasonal challenges: Weather patterns impact accessibility and comfort. During peak summer months, Fort Plain Lock 15 experiences higher usage: "Well, I'm back, it's June, and there are 3 other groups here. 1 boat, and 2 tent camping." Spring camping often involves managing mud and potentially impassable access roads.
Noise considerations: Environmental sounds vary significantly between sites. Fort Plain Lock 15 features "sounds of the highway and freight trains going by," which some visitors appreciate but may disturb light sleepers or young children. Sites deeper within state forests generally provide quieter environments.
Town proximity: Emergency access and supply runs require planning. Betty Brook Camp is situated "about 8 mi away" from "a small town, with just a gas station store." Most dispersed sites require 15-30 minute drives to reach supplies or emergency services.
Space limitations: Allaben Primitive Campsites offers family-friendly amenities like "Picnic table. Fire pit with cooking griddle." Site sizes vary considerably with Burnt Rossman State Forest offering "enough room for 2 to 3 campers. Parking across the street if it's wet." Larger family groups should arrive early to secure adequate space.
Parking surface conditions: RV parking requires careful assessment. Fort Plain Lock 15 provides a "parking lot is large, rocky, and uneven," which accommodates RVs but requires careful positioning. Burnt Rossman State Forest notes "Entrance is soft," potentially creating traction issues during wet periods.
Size restrictions: Many primitive sites have limited capacity. Betty Brook Camp visitors advise "I would not recommend this for large trailers. The site is fairly small, but it's in state park, and there's tons of walking that can be done." Most dispersed sites in the region accommodate smaller vehicles with lengths under 25 feet.
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