This entire area all the way to the trail head is awful. It is so crowded and worn out. The cars are lined up along the road for miles. People rushing up and down without regard for anyone else's safety. All I see is no water except in the creek for anyone to use or put out campfires. Which are all over the place. People pulling in and making camp rings I places they are not supposed to. To many in each camp. This area needs to be shut down and reworked. Don't go here.