OK, my weekends are usually Tuesday, Wed, &Thurs, so I have less issues with crowds than others do. I've been here twice, the first time didn't see a soul. The 2nd time a couple rode through on their horses. It looks like it gets some use on the weekends.

It's about a 6 mile ride up a dirt road, it's about 20 degrees cooler than the area. no bugs!

the road is washed out so there are some "new" campsites, no water, no toilets. no table etc