This was a really great spot! Like the other reviews was was a little tricky to find but when we did it was awesome. The gate was closed so we were a little deterred but we saw people behind it so we opened it and there wasn’t any issues! The stargazing was absolute top notch. There was about three other cars, but I didn’t go that far on the dirt road. I had a jeep Cherokee with 4 x 4. But a 4 x 4 four-wheel-drive wasn’t really necessary. All in all 10/10//