I've car camped a few other places since my first time camping here last year. Nothing compares. Sites on the cliff side are hard to get but I came up here on June 1 and many sites were open. I guess everyone who came up for Memorial Day weekend had already left. I was lucky enough to get site 35. It's a huge site off the road with a lot of space of between other sites. A friend of my was in the area and stopped by to see the site. He said he saw a wolf cross the road on the way out. I also believe I heard my camp neighbors tell the camp host that were was a rattle snake on their site. So be careful out there. I am going to try to snag a site here again soon.