If you can get there before everyone else, its a cool spot as long as the noob before you cleans up. Years ago it was a sure thing...now, GOOD LUCK! Last time there was June 2022, got there on a Thursday afternoon, driving up the mountain was all good, happy mood, then started seeing campers and kept telling my wife "we're good" we'll go up a little more; well there are only so many spots and they were all taken...panic sets in and lucky found a mediocre spot. Clearly says "no fires" ass holes on both sides had fires. A land owner came flying down in his truck and I thought I was going to witness a murder. I would have done the same thing!  Another thing is....all these noobs are distorting amazing places like this "WAS" with their SHIT and GARBAGE. Thats messed up, l know if you are readying this YOUR BETTER THEN THAT. Please educate people to clean up, if they are assholes about...kick their ass, they have no right to destroy these beautiful places. Also, the land owners are getting feed up with it, they are already trying to keep us out. Over the years I've got to know a few and I have watched their demeanor change towards us. SO PLEASE...respect the land and the owners.