I when up ash canyon rd in my 32ft motorhome. There are a lot of new built homes for quite always going up. The road narrows to one lane even for snaller cars. I wasn't sure if I could even turn around. Then to my right was a half circle with fire ring. It was tight. I pulled in. It was getting dark so I justification pulled slides out and stater. Starting about 5am I could hear cars going up the hill. E Everyore stopped in road road and was just starting in disbelief. I didn't feel welcome. I did stay another two nights. That's why I don't think this is still a spot. Someone in smaller rig should look passed where I went incase there up further. Something cool must be up the road lots of cats went up there for hours at a time. Hope to see a future update from fellow wonder Peace Out.