This was our first hike-in primitive camping trips. We had a great time minus the unbearble heat. I dont recomend camping here durrinf the summer. We packed out 5 gallons and killed it in a day, but the trail to hike it was alot of fun. We hiked up farther from our campsite and found a nice creek. We stayed in camp site 1 i think right off the trail and that was a mistake we hiked to 2 and wish we wouldve gone to that one instead. It was more off the trail. We had two groups come up on us and one biker almost hit us in the morning. We made sure to put ourselves away from the trail how he ended up in our space is beyond me.